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yeah well I my name is ed green I'm a

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member of the cult Oh Sac and Fox Nation

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in Missouri here in Kansas as well my

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father people came from I've been here

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in Kansas for 15 16 years but prior to

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that I had a wonderful opportunity to

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work with them some traditional healers

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out of South Dakota so and I still go

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back and work with them on occasion so

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so that's kind of where my knowledge is

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coming from and where I'm going to be

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speaking in and sharing from so I mean I

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guess I what I want to say at this point

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in time it's important to realize that

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them despite the devastation that

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happened to to my people here in our

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homeland you know the culture was that

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took us I mean and all the other things

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language and identity and all these

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other kind of things I mean our

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traditional healers are still open they

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still accept people from all walks of

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life from all races of life you know

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I've seen so many with people Dean

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miracles happen with them you know it's

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not it's not a belief system we never

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have to believe that it's going to work

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because it absolutely works and that's

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what you've come you should they come

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because they're on their last glass legs

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I mean because everyone else has given

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up on them the medical doctors that were

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there's nothing more that we can do and

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then they show up at our door and

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sometimes we're very fortunate that we

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can cure them and heal them and other

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times they have been so devastated that

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we can only heal them and prepare them

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for the other side know and that's one

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of the things that's wonderful about

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this you know there's there are so many

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techniques practices in there isn't one

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I can tell you that there isn't one

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they're all similar but they're not all

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the same so to try to really explain

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them it's impossible you know I think

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probably

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biggest thing that we try to to help

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people to do is to be to open up really

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to open up and be accepting to there is

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something else there is another reality

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there is something that's people a it's

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the spirit world you know I mean people

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make prayers all the time I mean what

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are they making prayer to you know if if

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they aren't going to be accepting of it

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oh it's just opening them up all we can

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do is try it's up to them whether or not

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they're willing to do that you know so

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one of the things that them that I

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really try to emphasize with people in

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any walk of life whatever it is that

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they do is that you know and you make a

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prayer you know you make a prayer you're

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making a play you're you're you're

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asking something else to for help you

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know and unless they're really willing

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to understand it when they do that that

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they're giving that away they're giving

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away that capability of answering

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themselves you know until they do that

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you know that the higher power doesn't

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have that are usually doesn't act on it

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you know that's one of the things that

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I've come to understand one of the

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things that are really stressed with you

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and means anybody who comes in and asks

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I always ask people to to make their own

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prayer they know how they feel they know

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what needs to be done you know and and

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so many people when they come there

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they're caught up in Scripture and I

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sometimes wonder whether or not them

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they force that to fit their need versus

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simply opening themselves up and making

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that simple request you know sometimes

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people are afraid to step out of the box

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but the Great Spirit doesn't have a box

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just waiting for you always waiting for

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you you know that's one of the things

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that I always encourage with people is

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some when you and when you ask for help

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when you make the prayer understand that

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you're you're giving you're giving

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something away because you understand

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that you can't do it alone so you turn

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and you make a prayer you're you're

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putting your your thoughts your feelings

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your empathy your compassion your love

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your bundling it all up and you made

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this prayer this works this desire and

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you've sent it out into the universe you

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know and a lot of times you know it it

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takes time to answer because sometimes a

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person wants to answer themselves the

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way that they think it needs to be

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answered in you know the higher powers

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they wait they wait till you're willing

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to let them do it know now quickly you

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can understand that quicker you learn it

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the quicker those things will start to

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happen for anybody one of the things

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that I've learned and one of the things

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that I encourage anybody to do for

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themselves

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it's so simple you know such a simple

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thing but to unlearn a process that

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you've been drilled with you've been

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frightened into and there's no there's

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no reason that anybody should um fear

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for your God or feel the Great Spirit or

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our fear these kind of things you know

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there shouldn't be a fear-based system

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one of the wonderful things about what

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we do it's not fear based you know to me

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that's that's an abusive relationship if

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it's fear-based it's an abusive

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relationship who wants to live that way

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shouldn't have to ever fear these kind

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of things

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so those are the things that I really

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work with with people and when they can

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get to that point they're open and

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accepting and understanding those kind

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of things known and for some I mean

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they've lived such a long time in that

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context that they're afraid to to step

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we even go back that way you know that's

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okay maybe next time no but those who

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are willing to step out of that I mean

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when they come out of them as a whole my

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god that's wonderful things start to

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happen in your life you know and that's

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what I enjoy about my native way of life

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you know it isn't it isn't religion it

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has many acts of spirituality that you

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can witness yourself you don't have to

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rely on someone else's experiences and

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base their life upon and there are

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experiences of 2,000 years ago you can

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have them today I am in time again you

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make your own connection that's just

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wonderful

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it's alive it's totally alive you know

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and it really makes it work you know

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that's what I envy about some of these

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so-called

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untouched cultures in my way of thinking

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they have such empathy and compassion

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that's why there's such intactness I

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mean they we say they live in poverty I

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say they live in total happiness they

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don't need the things that we need they

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don't need the technology they don't

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need the medicine they don't need so

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many things that we require today we say

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we require they have something that

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we're all seeking and that's happiness

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it's so simple I envy those untouched

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people's oh the way that my people used

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to be try to bring them back to that

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reintroduce them to some of that aspect

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oh yeah the Native American people they

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in today's world they have gone out in

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and every trail that's available they've

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gone around the world and they're

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looking at other cultures and a lot of

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our native people they're slowly the

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younger ones are slowly trickling

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trickling back

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we're very fortunate right now that

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there are enough older ones who have a

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good wealth of knowledge and use of the

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language very important you know I mean

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I still am lacking in an area of use of

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the language and I am when I find

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somebody who has a command in use and

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I'm always inquisitive what about this

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and what about this because there's a

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different metaphorical understanding of

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our world that I don't find anywhere

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else it's a much deeper connection that

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I don't find in an English language in

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the traditional language that I go back

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to my alters well it goes much deeper

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and that's what our people are coming

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back to as we help them some of the

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people that we've helped throughout the

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years they've come back because no one

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else could help them I think I've said

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that a little while ago you know I mean

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and once they find that you know and

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then India they have such enthusiasm and

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they pick it up and and want to give it

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to the next person to the next person

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the next person you know and that's how

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it gets perpetuated you know that's one

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of the good things so one of the things

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that them I really am happy about is

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that we have an ability to go back to

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the source and one of our ceremonies

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allows us to do quite basically go back

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to to the source and ask again we don't

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have to rely on information that

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somebody else may have if we if we need

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additional information we have a

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ceremony that helps us to go back and to

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ask at the source but

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when a person does that when they get

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the answer there's always that issue of

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openness and acceptance when they get an

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answer to go into deep prayer you know

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they go back into fasting they'll come

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back with an answer and there's always

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that issue of openness and acceptance

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are they willing to accept what was

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given to them as an answer you know I've

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never seen in in a negative way